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Wednesday, May 02, 2007

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James


When a man is accused of the sexual molestation of a youth, he should be immediately brought to the police, and the police should investigate. They are the ones (NOT the bishops, who cannot be trusted) who should determine if a charge is credible, and if criminal charges should be filed.

If it is not a criminal matter (statutes of limitations have expired, etc. etc.), then an independent body of well-respected and trusted people (not just Catholics) should determine if the charges are credible.

If determined to be credible by police or by such an independent body, the public should IMMEDIATELY be informed, in order that they may guard their children, and the man in question should be IMMEDIATELY removed from contact with youth until a full investigation (or trial) has been completed.

Innocent-until-proven-guilty as always, but the FIRST concern (not the last, as has been the case so, so, so many times with church leaders) should be protection of children.

If the priest is found to have molested a child or a youth, he should be laicized.

James

Inuus

You said:

"In other words: the general public shouldn't hear wild accusations unless they have some solid foundations."

I guess the question comes to mind who will have the prudence to determine what is wild and what is not. It is easy to point to extreme cases on either end, but how do you trust those who have not shown themselves trustworthy? or even have shown themselves untrustworthy? If multiple accusations pop up before an investigation is able to be carried out, I as a parent with a specific duty of protecting my children would sure like to know that as soon as possible, and not wait for an investigation.

It is indeed a difficult thing. Christ, bring peace to your Church.

James


The Boy Scouts had serious problems for some years with volunteer scout leaders (men) who had homosexual attractions to teenage boys, and with molestations of boys by men with homosexual proclivities.

Their response - now decades old?

Set down strict rules about who can be with boys. No known homosexuals - ever. Never have boys alone with just one man. Insist that all parents and boys watch presentations on what to do if a homosexual ever makes sexual advances with regard to a boy.

The policies of the Boy Scouts, which are forthrightly designed to protect teenage boys from the predations of homosexual men, are common sense and have helped the Boy Scouts avoid the scope of the tragedy and evil that the Catholic Church invited on itself.

The Boy Scouts put youth first, no matter how politically 'incorrect' they are, and no matter the squawks and screams of sodomite activists.

I (sadly) trust my sons to be protected on a Boy Scout campout a hundred times more than to be alone with a couple of priests somewhere.

James

Atlanta Catholic

Bishop Brown needs to apologize to his flock for not being honest. This was wrong to keep his name clear and to expose others that were also accused. The ones that might have been falsely accused have no recourse to Bishop Brown. He has the authority to ruin their lives for even questioning him. The guilty ones need to be exposed. Now Bishop Brown is definitely guilty of breaking his own covenant. What else is he not being honest about?

Donald

C'mon Atlanta Catholic...we all know there is significant "dirt" on Bishop Brown...he has not been honest since the beginning...let's start w/ outing priests and "CYAing" himself to personal property purchases and "funneling" Parish/Church funds to pet projects, to hiring an openly gay priest to renovate/design parishes and pay handsomely, to private chefs for his personal consumption of an extravagent lifestyle to "hot tub" soirees at his $1.5 million estate to closing parishes in poor areas, to St. Mary's issues, to discontinuing reverent Tridentine masses...I'm getting weary, anyone else want to pick this up? He has been a horrendous Bishop for the Diocese of Orange, as he was in Boise and everywhere else he's been...scary, he's not alone in his "transgressions" in the council of Bishops and Cardinals.

James


There is something terribly wrong in the Church when it cannot get rid of this sort of bishop.

The Catholic Church has become like a high school with a boatload of malfeasant and horrific teachers - who are not committed to teaching truth, or worse, who are determined to teach lies - and who are unconcerned about the welfare of their charges.

It's way, way, way past time for the superintendent to take some action.

James

James

"...to hiring an openly gay priest to renovate/design parishes and pay handsomely, to private chefs for his personal consumption of an extravagent lifestyle to "hot tub" soirees at his $1.5 million estate..."

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How gay.

James

Alan Simmons

Another case of the Pot calling the kettle black......eerrrrr! Say wasn't Bishop Weekly of Wisconsin who was gun-ho against priests who were molesting Altar boys?? Only to find out he too was bounced for doing the same.
James I always respect your comments, and to quote you sir; "Bishop Brown needs to apologize to his flock." So true but then he too should be removed. This man has done nothing more than to lie through his teeth.

Again I ask...Where is the POPE these days??? Doesn't he get wind of this? After all everyone else does.

James


"Where is the POPE these days??? Doesn't he get wind of this?"

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Alan - I ask the same question all the time - as do millions of Catholics in this country.

It is ultimately the Pope's responsibility to monitor and correct and guide (and if need be remove malfeasant) bishops.

A good bishop watches closely what his priests are doing. A good Pope should do the same with regard to bishops.

Pope JPII seemed to believe that he could trust all his bishops. That, terribly sadly, but truly, was a huge mistake.

James

FR. BANDA CHILUFYA

IT IS VERY EASY TO DESTROY ONE'S NAME ESPECIALLY A PRIEST THAN TO MEND IT. WHAT PROTECTION IS THERE FOR A PRIEST WHO IS ACCUSED WRONGLY IN ANY CASE E.G IMPLICATED IN DEFILEMENT CASE WHERE THE FAMILY OF THE VICTIM EXAGERATES THE AGE OF A LADY REDUCING THE YEARS. DO WE HAVE ANY LEGAL PROTECTION FOR SUCH PRIESTS.
THEN IF A PRIEST IS UNFAIRLY IMPLICATED IN SUCH A WAY THAT HE IS JUDGED. NOW FOR THE SAKE OF NOT ARGUING TOO MUCH HE ALLOWS THE SITUATION TO BE LIKE THAT AND ACCEPTS TO PAY. IF HE CAN NOT AFFORD TO PAY DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, ARE THERE PEOPLE OF GOOD WILL TO ASSIST.

Joseph-USA

Father Chilufya,

We hear you!

The Church should mandatorily LITIGATE (i.e. defend) to pieces EVERY sexual abuse accusation concerning every clergyman, nun, employee, or other "agent" of the Church. This circus is repleat with false witnesses and false Bishops who "give up" or trade the just cause of others in order to hide themselves.

But first, the Catholic Church must DISMISS ALL Homosexuals from the ordained clergy (and every other position of leadership, authority, or representation). Defend them all in court for sure after they are gone, but DISMISS them all immediately.

There is NOTHING normal, beneficial or valuable about homosexual mental illness, and it profoundly damages the paternalistic natural human family and the Catholic Church which is structured on the same paternalistic model, that ANTI-MAN Homosexual mental illness abhors.

Atlanta Catholic

Father Banda Chilufya,

The question that Bishop Tod D. Brown needs to answer is..."Why did he expose the names of accused priests to the media...but leave his own name off the list?" Did you know that he was also accused?

Were the other priest's reputations...innocent or guilty, less important than Bishop Tod's?
That is where the root of the problem lies. Joseph-USA is correct. Collapsed moral authority and disobedience to the Teachings of the Church ( **especially** on sexual morality) brings suffering to many.

John M. Kelley

A priest-friend was falsely accused by a lone accuser four years ago, and he was summarily tossed onto the street. The civil case against "Fr. Joe" was dismissed after the accuser bragged to friends that he was just doing it for the money. Despite all this, Fr. Joe has still not received any hearing from the diocese. This is typical of the denial of canonical due process throughout the country.

After decades of enabling and covering-up child abuse, the bishops have now gone to the other extreme. Just one accusation, without any corroborating evidence, is enough to get a priest suspended without pay, and presumed "guilty unless proven innocent." And in many cases, priests are still kept suspended, treated as guilty, even after they've been exonerated by civil and church courts.

I wrote this prayer and am asking friends to join in praying it for all falsely accused.

PRAYER FOR INNOCENT, FALSELY ACCUSED PRIESTS

They cried out, "Crucify him! Crucify him!" Pilate said to them,
"I find no guilt in him. Take him yourselves and crucify him." (John 19)

Jesus Christ, Lamb of God,
falsely and maliciously accused by the mob,
have mercy on us.

Jesus Christ, Lamb of God,
handed over to death by cowardly authority,
have mercy on us.

Jesus Christ, Sun of Justice,
vindicated by your Resurrection,
grant us justice.

Father of Truth,
send the light of your Holy Spirit into the darkness
of every false accusation and unjust condemnation.

Give strength to the innocent to stand firmly in truth,
as you gave to Jesus, in the face of torture and death.

Give courage to church and civil authorities
to grant justice and due process to the innocent,
in the face of the mob.

Father of Mercy,
deliver your innocent ones from evil;
grant them speedy justice and vindication,
in the name of Jesus Christ, our Victim and our Savior.

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on all
innocent victims: the abused and the falsely accused.

(Follow with Our Father, Hail Mary, Glory Be)

Joseph-USA

So many things in life "make no sense" or are "obviously" unjust and yet they occur and persist in each of our lives.

It is certain that God's ways are not our ways, and that even our ideas of justice and right fall short of God's Truth.

Although the MANY innocent but falsely accused priests who have suffered probably most of anyone are in fact serving God importantly by leading us to each think about this evil and injustice, and to act to right the wrongs which are damaging our Church and weaking its ability to lead ourselves and our fellow men to seek and accept God's Will.

I deal with "impossible" problems which are nothing in comparison with the misdeeds which have so harmed our clergy, but yet these small matters consume my own life and all of my thoughts and efforts.

The good Catholic nuns always counselled (when I was a child) that we should "offer our sufferings up to God as a prayer." But of course we must also pray for and act on behalf of others whom we can help or console.

It is certain that God is using all of this horror to teach us to pray and rely on Him.

Atlanta Catholic

Joseph-USA,

Thank you! You are right. A few years ago I spoke with an elderly priest who was being punished for being honest. His Superiors removed his faculties to get back at him for speaking up against corruption.

I was so inspired by the spiritual inner strength that this priest demonstrated. He knew he was suffering to atone for the many wrongs that the clergy has done. He was being punished for speaking out against homosexual clergy. To punish him they used a lie to build a case against him. This is not uncommon.

There is so much corruption within the clergy it makes sense that someone who is innocent in the clergy, is being asked to pay the price. This priest still fought with much grace. He was not silent. Through all of the injustice and pain, he understood why he was being asked to suffer.

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