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Friday, April 24, 2009

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dr

Actually, I am glad she is vocal about this. It gives the Church the opportunity to remove her. If she were quiet about her acts and insanity, then we would not know about it.

Time to stop the rot?

It would be an act of mercy and kindness if the orders with declining vocations and publicly documented disloyalty and white anting of the magisterium were simply closed and members given the option of laicization or being absorbed into some of the orders who are flourishing and who are known to be loyal to the magisterium.
Many of the older sisters in the groups that have lost their way might be glad of a new home and it would protect the laity and more importantly the young from false teaching and bad example.

Alban

George Weigel is correct. There is a "psychological schism" and it gets bigger and bigger each day. It is happening under the guise of unity and adherence to the Church's "magisterium".

Rome may silence Sister Schneiders, but she will be followed by legions just like her. No number of anathemas and thunder bolts from the Vatican will stop women from moving toward eventual ordination to the priesthood WITHIN the Catholic Church.

Hush now

An odd definition of schism? It is impossible to have ordination within the Church if the magisterium says it is not possible. Any such ordination is outside the Church and its followers have by their own actions walked out of Mother Church.If the Holy Spirit wishes to change Christ's precedent of selecting only males for the priesthood He will do what the Holy Spirit has always done Great saints will be visited by God and told they must give a message to the Church that God is asking for this change No amount of human lobbying and politicking by laity or clergy will bring about female ordination unless the Blessed Trinity wishes it to be so. In the meantime there is a virtue called holy obedience which the great saints possessed in bucket loads and which many of us could do well to develop.

diane

"Rome may silence Sister Schneiders, but she will be followed by legions just like her."

er, I rather doubt it. The dissidents are graying, getting long in the tooth, and dwindling in numbers. They are literally dying off. And, if you think young Catholics are inspired by the example of these dinosaurs, you must not know too many young Catholics.

danny beano

wow, what else can we say when the Magisterium needs to interfere with the nuns. get real Vatican.

Sister Zelda

Mathew and Luke agree that "Blessed are those persecuted for seeking righteousness." Contemporary religious life born in this first world nation speaks of the life of Jesus who identifies with people who are powerless, voiceless and disenfranchised even within their own faith community. These Vatican investigations attest to the seeking of righteousness in the lives of religious congregations and their members who support Gospel values over corporate greed and epidemic violence. May the outcome of these investigations attest to the emerging lifestyle where women of faith know their contribution to the reign of God on earth.

Reggie

Why do we think that silencing her, that this issue will go away? I find that it is amazing how we are ready to discount someone for thier thoughts. I understand that she may be wrong in her thoughts and writings, however,What I think we need to have is dialogue, to let her truely understand the reasoning behind church teaching. Otherwise what I am reading here in the comments is..."Be quiet.. you are not worth listening to".. And some of us have been on that end before, yet, How quickley we forget.

Enough is enough!

This sister showed no respect for the Holy Father or His emissary when she circulated her inhouse email urging them not to cooperate with the visiting delegation and labelling their visit an attempt to silence the order and close it down.Some people use the word dialogue when what they really mean is we will not accept Truth and will remain contemptuous of the Church's mandate to teach Christ's Truth. They want to create their own person made Truth and woe betide the person who questions them. Mind you they still want to use the Church's property and support and name! If you are too proud to accept that the magisterium teaches Christ's Truth at least have the honesty to leave the Church instead of trying to undermine and impose your own misguided and false theology on those loyal to Mother Church and fed up with your guile and duplicity

Reggie

Lets leave the judging to the people that are going to do the investigations. I find being Judge, Jury and executioner very exhausting. "If you are too proud to accept that the magisterium teaches Christ's Truth at least have the honesty to leave the Church instead of trying to undermine and impose your own misguided and false theology on those loyal to Mother Church and fed up with your guile and duplicity" Pick up the stone. I dare you to throw it. Who is really living up to the truth that the church teaches?

Enough is enough!

Reggie
I am not into stoning nor into judging others.This nun 's own email mocks and urges others to be outwardly co-operative but secretly obstructive and defiant.If she has nothing to hide or fear from a visiting delegation why such behaviour?
Nor am I suggesting I or anyone else is a paragon of virtue We are all sinners in constant need of God's mercy and grace.
Instead of urging her fellow sisters to be wary and cautious she should have been saying be open, honest and go about your daily routines as usual.
When things are fuelled by the Holy Spirit they bear good fruit and will survive fo as long as the Spirit deems it necessary.Sisters with a deep faith and trust in the Holy Spirit will accept with holy obedience and equanimity whatever the future brings.

KvK

This attitude of them versus us went out in the 80's and these women need to move on. Why be a part of the Church when they have effectively removed themselves from it's teachings. Who were they making their vows to? So then I guess they aren't accountable to anyone except themselves! Wow, I thought a vocation was about putting Christ and the Church first?

This nonsense is why there are virtually no new vocations to these feminist stuck in the 60's communities.

Richard Gordon, London

The woman is clearly wrong. You in America have a 'hyper-market' of religious groups. Surely, there is somewhere where she might find solace for her sense of anger against the Creator. I suspect she gets a buzz out of being contrary. A real attention seeker.

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