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Tuesday, May 29, 2007

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David1

What is the "one step backward" implied by this?

spaxx

This a great leap backward and a very frightening one at that.

Inter denominational dialog is none other than sickening, poisonous ecumenism, long condemned by previous Popes especially Pope St. Pius X in his letter of 1910 to the Bishops of France condemning the Sillon.

Satan, the father of lies, is the master per excellence at conjuring words, to which he assigns ambiguity. Through ambiguity he achieves acceptance of the destructive falsehood which confounds even the most brilliant minds. First it was ecumenism of the Vatican II Council which created an ecumenical liturgy, an ecumenical Bible, and ecumenical catechism, uniting truth and falsehood. Now it is Inter denominational dialog with the Churchs's sworn enemies. What do we have in common with those who vehemently deny The Holy Trinity, The Divinity of Christ, The Immaculate Conception, The Virgin Birth....?

The faithful must not accept these poisonous things; ecumenism comes straight from the secret dens of iniquity, of Masonry. In 1978, Friedseller, ex-Grandmaster of the Grand Orient of France, wrote an article titled, "Three points is all," in which he said,

"The Council will take a long time to find her true signification. But the faithful understand that something very important has come to pass which is entirely contained in the word 'ecumenism'....that the Church must reconcile herself with all religions and, likewise, as a consequence, with Masonry."

There is a "diabolical hand" in Rome which is demanding, through blind obedience, the destruction of the Catholic Church.

Whether this poisoned ecumenism reaches us through the hierarchy or not, one must refuse to swallow. It is a matter of strict obedience to our Lord Jesus Christ, to the Church of all times, to all the successors of Peter. We must, therefore, stick to tradition.

David1

All I can say is "Wow." I didn't realize the Church was so weak and the Masons are so strong.

I would be interested in hearing from anybody else. Are we to live in the world in strict isolation? To what degree and to what extent would ecumenical dialogue by looked upon with favor by God? What are the dangers (other than masons)?

spaxx

David,

we cannot live in isolation bse the Church has an apostolic mission and such a mission would be impossible if one were to live in isolation.

Concerning ecumenism, the vigilant and militant catholic must look at it in light of Catholic Tradition. But what exactly is ecumenism? The ecumenical movement is

"the movement toward reunion of all Churches into a single Church, one in body, but not necessarily holding the same religious tenets... emphasizing things we have in common, suppressing those things which divide us." (Crying in the Wilderness - Modern Ecumenism is a Fraud)

Ecumenism plans to bring Churches together and unite them, a venture condemned by Tradition, Pope Pius XII in Encyclical Humani Generis, and by Pope Pius XI in Encyclical Mortalium Animos, which teaches that heretics should return to Catholic unity. The Church is not ecumenical; she is missionary. The missionary Church aims to convert. The ecumenical Church aims to find what is true in error and remain at that level. And this is to deny the truth if the Church. Because of this ecumenism, there are no more enemies. Those who are in error are our brothers. Ecumenism, therefore, cannot of God because it is opposed to our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church, and thus rightly condemned by Catholic Tradition.

Ecumenism is part of a grand plot to subvert the Catholic Church. It waters down the triumphalism of a Church that claims to be the only ark of salvation.Yet one cannot talk of ecumenism without mentioning liberalism; ecumenism has its roots in liberalism and among the consequences of liberalism must also be mentioned the denial of:

i - the supernatural and thus of original sin
ii - justification by grace
iii - the real reason for the incarnation
iv - the sacrifice of the cross
v - the Church and the priesthood

Liberalism triumphed at Vatican II Council and it is of utmost importance that what transpired during this Council be unveiled and denounced because the salvation of millions is at stake(not to mention those already lost). There was a plot at the Council that was prepared in advance. Those behind the plot knew what they had to do and how they were going to do it. They knew who would start things off. Everything was prepared down to the last detail. The liberals took control of power to be sure of bringing about the ecumenical revolution that the enemies of the Church so wished for. In this pastoral Council, the spirit of error and lies could circulate at ease, planting time bombs everywhere which would rip apart the Church's institutions when the right moment came.

The Council transformed modern ideas of liberty, equality, and brotherhood into its doctrines of religious liberty, collegiality, and ecumenism. Yet these are precisely the three principals of liberalism that led to the French revolution; a revolution instigated by Freemasonry.

These libertine principals ruin all authority in families, the Church, and in religious organizations. It is nothing but non serviam! It is the cry of Satan: I will not serve! I do not want to serve! Freedom! It is the stench of hell.

The triumph of liberalism can be seen today in form of empty churches in Europe, catholic masses interwoven with pagan rites in India and Fatima, and a Catholic Church that is all but dead everywhere else. The Holy Mass is no longer meant to apply the Redemption to each and every soul. The entire liturgical reform shows the effect of that tendency.

This is precisely what was planned for and predicted by Freemasonry a century before in the Alta Vendita, a plan called "the supreme attack". The penetration of Modernism and Liberalism throughout the hierarchy and even into the vatican itself, was conceived, foretold, and organized as early as the beginning of the last century by Freemasonry. The secret papers of the Alta Vendita of the Carbonari that fell into the hands of Pope Gregory XVI span a period from 1820 to 1846. They were published at the request of Pope Pius IX by Cretineau-Joly. Below is an excerpt of the said document:

"The Pope, whoever he is, will never come to the secret societies: it is up to the secret societies to take the first step towards the Church, with the aim of conquering both of them.The task that we are going to undertake is not the work of a day, or of a month, or of a year; it may last several years, perhaps a century; but in our ranks the soldier dies and the struggle goes on. We do not intend to win the Popes to our cause, to make of them neophytes of our principles, propagators of our ideas. That would be a ridiculous dream; and if events turn out in some way, if Cardinals or prelates, for example, of their own free will or by surprise, should enter into a part of our secrets, this is not at all an incentive for desiring their elevation to the see of Peter. That elevation would ruin us. Ambition alone would have led them to apostasy; the requirements of power would force them to sacrifice us. What we must ask for, what we should look for and wait for, as the Jews wait for the Messiah, is a Pope according to our needs...

All faithful catholics are urged to be vigilant and on guard against anything that goes against tradition. Going against catholic tradition in the name of blind obedience must be rejected.


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