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Tuesday, October 23, 2007

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Khaled

In a world where Christ Himself is mocked, it's no surprise that His saints will be treated likewise.

In fact, considering the recent attack on Mother Teresa, and now Padre Pio, I would not tbe surprised if these attacks on the saints become more common.

Subvet

Didn't Christ say that no servant is greater than their master, and for that reason His followers could expect the same sort of persecution He experienced?

This hit piece on Padre Pio is a good example but not the only one. Seems everytime I identify myself as a practicing Catholic I draw fire about clergy sexual abuse, how religion is for the insecure, how the one listener can't understand why the Church is so adamantly against abortion, etc.

And I'd be surprised if others reading these comments aren't nodding their heads in agreement.

IMHO we're in for a very long period of it getting worse before it gets better. Buckle up, it's gonna be a wild ride!

Rachel

Subvet, you are right. Sadly, we get to be blamed for everything. A classmate of mind stated that the Inquisition was designed to eradicate Jews and pagans. LOL, that is a lie of course but so many people have become so blind and are willing to believe the absolute worst of the Catholic Church. We know that we have to suffer as well as Our Lord did and still is ridiculed. It is sick that they want to smear St. Padre Pio. This isn't the first nor the last time they will do this. Look at what they have done to Pope Pius XII and Mother Teresa, etc. Oh well, let they idiots wallow in their own lies. We know the truth. All we can do is pray for them and continue to practice our Faith.

Terry

The Archbishop of Manfredonia, St. Pio's contemporary, was an enemy of Padre Pio, as were other clerics whose lives were not in keeping with their office. This document and the witnesses were probably a result of their efforts. Many lies such as these circulated about Padre during his lifetime, which was one of the reasons Pio was silenced for a time. There have been plenty of doctors who examined Padre Pio's stigmata and testified to its authenticity. When the wounds disappeared shortly before he died, there were no scars. That should be proof enough.

linda

This is not only an attack against the Saints and the Catholic Church but against God. There is an on going campaign to discredit the Catholic Church and so turn more and more people away from God Himself. The Church is a prime target because they stand for Holiness, they stand for morality, they stand for Christ. There are many who would like to bring persecution upon all Christians by discrediting them and ultimately silencing them.

It just shows with comments against all of these Godly people, that satan is still trying to get everyone to join him in hell. When are people going to wake up?

AnnaRose

This person had better BEWARE! Don't mess with our beloved St. Padre Pio! Another thought on all of this anti-Catholic stuff is to keep the faith and study it so that you can answer correctly these critics. The Holy Spirit will guide us through these troubled times and will help us to grow in Christ.

This is blasphemy. It is blasphemy against God who was pleased to bestow on this humble man the stigmata. I think the devil is just trying to discredit Padre Pio even after his death and his canonization.

Kylie

This is no surprise as the good church is forever being placed under scrutiny. The devil is having a great time with media,tv, music,internet, etc. If they cannot see, therefore, they do not believe but will believe any other type of rubbish in the process. We need to stick together as Christians because even Our Lord Jesus said that in the last days there would be very few believers, and I think those days are now unfortunately.

S

What do you expect when Man everywhere champions the MURDER OF THE UNBORN - all manner of rot crawls out from the darkness trying to destroy the Followers of Christ - St Pio on Earth was often riduculed. So in Heaven, as he did on Earth, he will no doubt turn the celestrial cheek and forgive - we who are still on the road following Christ's teaching will be attacked 'often' through Our Saints because THEY are trying to undermine the value the beauty and the love of being a Christian - Praise be Our Lord Jesus Christ forever.

Tina Marie

I read that an atheist was confronting Padre Pio & was converted to Christianity. God does work in mysterious ways!

KJ

The acid claim was mentioned by NCR back in 2001...

http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/word/word1228.htm

"In 1922 a well-known Italian theologian and physician, Franciscan Fr. Agostino Gemelli, a specialist on the subject of stigmata cases, concluded that Padre Pio was a “hysteric” and the stigmata was self-induced. (Gemelli, by the way, was the founder of Rome’s Gemelli hospital, where John Paul II receives much of his health care). Gemelli speculated that Padre Pio kept his wounds open with carbolic acid."

I don't know if acid was used or not. I am only pointing out that the acid claim is not a new development.

Frank

Thomastic

I agree in total with your thoughts and comments

With regards to Padre Pio, he was a great man and clergy for the church, and whether his stigmatas were real or not in my opinion means nothing

These past 26 years the Vatican has been a saint factory with JPII canonizing almost anyone, more than all popes combined over 500 years and I dont think 1% can compare to what Padre Pio meant to many here on this earth

For that matter I probably couldnt name 10 of those who have been named by JPII and now Pope B16 but we all know Padre Pio and what he meant to millions without the disgrace that so many who call themselves clergy have brought today

andy

Saint Pio prayed for all souls not just some. So even his enemies are being prayed for in heaven, which is comforting. I`m sure St. Pio is keeping a special eye on them. Remember he would say,pray, hope and don`t worry. Lets not make to much of a stir out of this,it only brings more confusion. Let them say what they want to, and continue to pray, pray,pray. Andy Keszei.

Tony

So what's new? apparently the devil and his disciples are really busy discrediting holy saints like Padre Pio! This should be another PROOF that Padre Pio is a real saint! Otherwise, satan will not use his people to do so!!!
Keep the process going!!! the more the criticism the more credence for our holy saints and the Catholic Church.
Praise you Jesus!!!

It is apparent that Satan and it's cohorts have mapped out strategies as to how to pull down the Church and as many soulS as possible by

1. Mind control (using kidnapped children who have become adults; and those who have been through mind control process to perform the insane work which we have been seeing all around)

2. Inflicting subtle demonic influence over the clergy over the years (including demon of pedophile), then waited for the right time exposed the scandle in a global scale at one stroke.

2. Desecrate anything that and anyone who is holy (the recent gay who received the Lord from the Vicar's hand in San Francesco). By the way, those gay should never be refered to as "sister."

3. Discredit anyone who is a model of holiness either dead or alived. In this case, it is Padre Pio.

4. Their goal is to desensitized the public and the faithful, and in hope that eventually the public and the faithful will accept Satan's final attack on the Truth of the "Ressurrection of Jesus."

5. Then, the Ancient Dragon will disguise as the 'Savior' appeared as Christ in the sky with artifical cloud under the help of the government.

WATCH OUT, FLOKS. NEVER GIVE INTO THESE TRAPS. IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT, PICK UP THE WEAPON OF ROSARY. PRAY THE ROSARY WHICH WILL CHAIN THE SERPENT FOR GOOD.

BE ALERT FOR ALL FORMS OF DECEPTIONS:
1 BE CAREFUL ALL FORMS OF HALF TRUTH IN LANGUAGE AND LOGOS, SIGNS, ETC. FOR EXAMPLE, BE AWARE OF THE WORD 'CHRIST' IF THERE IS NO 'JESUS' ATTACH TO 'CHRIST.' BECAUSE IT CAN BE ANTI-CHRIST.
FOR PRO-LIFERS, WATCH OUT THE LOGOS AND WHOEVER MADE THE LOGOS - 'FROM CONCEPTION TO ETERNITY"
'FROM CONCEPTION TO HEAVEN.'
DO NOT BUY INTO THESE SUBTLE DECEPTION - ETERNAITY CAN BE HELL TOO. UNBELIVERS BELIEVE IN HEAVEN AS WELL, BUT NOT THE SAME HEAVEN AS THE HEAVEN CHRITIANS BELIVE.
THE TRUE LOGO FOR PRO-LIFER SHOULD BE:
------------------------------
FROM CONCEPTION TO NATUAL DEAD.
------------------------------

NOW, YOU GET THE IDEA HOW TO BE CUNNY TO DETECT THE DECEPTION.

PADRE PIO PRAY FOR US.

Maryanne

We must pray for these people. They are throwing away their eternal life. How sad that this secular world has affected so many people. One other thing we need to do is to bless ourselves and say our prayers before we eat when we are out, wear a crucifix or a Divine Mercy pin, always act like true disciples of Christ, etc. We need to show the world what believers of Jesus are like and to witness by our actions.

Tom McMurray

I moved from the UK to Ireland 3 years ago and because I have an active faith a lot of my wifes family think Im a bit odd even although they participate regularly in NEW AGE channeling and stuff.
Ireland is supposed to be a strong catholic faith but Im finding that as a believer against abortion, gay rights etc I'm now in the minority. We must remain strong in Christ and defend our faith and defend the reputation of Holy people like Padre Pio. God bless you all

Theresa

Either people are going to believe it or they aren't. Isn't that the way it is with Christianity anyway?If you are a Christian you continue to look for ways to help you with your faith, if you aren't you look for ways to reinforce your dislike of religious ideas, actions and words. The bottom line is that as Christians we cannot let our beliefs be shaped by the secular world. As a Protestant (shock, shock!) who loves the Catholic Church (more shock, shock) I find it totally irrelevant to my faith and my belief in and love for Padre Pio what anyone says now that he has left this earthly place. Surely you have heard these rumors before. I had. It makes no difference to me what anyone has to say about Padre Pio. All you have to do is look at his life and you will know what he was and what he believed. Surely a man of his faith would never perpetrate such a fraud. At the very least he would be defrauding himself. Christians should keep their eyes fixed on Jesus Christ, the Bible and the Church instead of relying on and being swayed by the secular press. Look, in the end we must make our own decisions about this life and the God who created it. I am a Protestant and I believe in the Saints and intercession, I believe in the Blessed Mother and the Rosary. I love Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, St. Peter the Apostle, Saint Bernadette, and Padre Pio. Do all Protestants understand how I feel? No. Do I care that they understand how I feel. No, not really. I follow as I am led. I love church history and that is not usually taught in Protestant churches. Well not any further back than Martin Luther. But as a Christian I am led by bigger proddings than the church can provide. As the church turns toward secularism to accept abortion and gay marriage, Christians must stand,at times against the winds of change, even if many churches sanction those changes. The sad thing is that many Protestants don't know about Padre Pio, Lourdes, Fatima and the Vatican. Just as sad is that many Catholics don't realize how many Protestants believe in Padre Pio, the Blessed Virgin, Fatima and Lourdes. Many Protestants say the Rosary and love John Paul II. We are all the victims of misconceptions and this one about Padre Pio is the same. If we are true to our beliefs then we will follow them no matter who says we are wrong. God will have the final say and I will love to read the headlines on that day. God Bless You All.

virginia fly

it is so sad to see so many who can be scared to believe in FAITH. I know St Padre Pio is a saint!!! I wish people would spend time speaking to Jesus and Mary instead of fighting faith. They will be so scared when they die and have to face the loving face of Jesus. The one they deny and slander, All we can do for them is pray for them and hope the people who listen to them get to know the truth. God is love. St padre pio is love of God

virginia fly

it is so sad to see so many who can be scared to believe in FAITH. I know St Padre Pio is a saint!!! I wish people would spend time speaking to Jesus and Mary instead of fighting faith. They will be so scared when they die and have to face the loving face of Jesus. The one they deny and slander, All we can do for them is pray for them and hope the people who listen to them get to know the truth. God is love. St padre pio is love of God

A Simple Sinner

Slow day in the press when they have nothing better to do than run stories like this. I guess it sells more papers than say, I dunno, discussing the persecution of the Catholic Church in Islamic lands?

When you stand back and look at the Catholic Church as a whole... Well you can make claims about St. Pio, you can discount Mother Theresa, you can dismantle Our Lady of Guadalupe, one by one by one... Or at least try...

But in the end all these saints, miracles, apparitions, lives of holiness - they are all one big ball of a collection of conspiracies and cover ups? The KGB files can't be kept secret, the identity of Deep Throat is revealed, the identity of CIA operatives gets leaked...

But the Vatican and the Catholic faithful around the world are able to propogate millions of hoaxes? They can all be explained away as pius fabrications? Fatima was a Mass halicination, the shround of Turin was a midieval forgery, the incorrupt bodies of saints were just preserved by humidity, the Eucharistic miracles are just frauds... I have heard and read all of these claims before.

REALLY amazing at how tight-lipped and under control the Vatican keeps all of these conspiracies and frauds. Makes you wonder if the Jesuits really are as powerful as the fundamentalist tracts say they are!

On balance I give this news story about as much credence as I do the doctor who diagnosed JP2's "assisted suicide" by watching the news. Which is to say, I don't give it any credence at all.

former seminarian

I believe that Padre Pio is a saint, but I have problem with the infallibility of the canonization process, since John XXIII was beatified. Can someone explain to me (us, who are similarly scandalized) how was this possible? John destroyed the traditional Church, and opened it up for all kinds of errors, with the help of the mason fraternity in the Vatican.

Frank

Former seminarian

The answer to your question is quite simple. The Popes since John XXIII and most of the clergy have been trained into thinking from the seminary level, as you are well aware, that the church actually only started at the commencement of Vatican II. Have you ever heard a pope in your lifetime ever once quote an encyclical or a council before Vatican II or not authored by a V2 Pope or theologian? Or course not, because it would show a clear contradiction and defection in Catholic teaching from what was taught before the "Catholic Reform" took place, and with it so many souls have been lost

Not saying anything promulgated is invalid as that would be for those much smarter than I, but one does not need to be a master theologian to see that what for example Leo XIII and Pius X taught would never make it into the front door of any church or the Vatican today as it just does not fit with Freedom of Religion, ecumenism, and all faiths, even those that deny Christ can be saved which we all know is hogwash
Pray for a full restoration of Faith, Morals, Tradition and good clergy to lead us back to salvation, which is the reason Jesus came to earth and established his church here on earth, for the salvation of CATHOLIC souls and those that believe in him

Scripture is clear as to what happens to those that deny him

George Ox.

Since , St. Padre Pio NEVER said a "new mass", only THE TRIDENTINE MASS - enemies of the TRUTH are always against that.

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