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Monday, March 31, 2008

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Dan Hunter

"What nation state see's itself as the defender of Christendom"

My home.

Ut Prosim.

AKFox

I personally am Defender of the Faith. The Church has yet to recognize it and bestow that title upon me though.

AKFox, Fidei Defensor, Deus Vult

Thomas Hart

It is time for the West to push back.

1. Deport rioters.
2. Demand conformity to Western norms.
3. Punish honor killings.
4. Deny the right to parallel legal systems. No sharia.
5. Demand the right to build churches in Muslim countries.
6. Push for exploitation of alternative sources of oil.
7. Actively monitor mosques and Arabic/Muslim publications. Expel anti-Western propagandists.
8. Active propaganda for alternate belief systems broadcast into Arab/Muslim countries.
9. Get active in the bedroom and start reproducing. Formulate laws that encourage reproduction and inhibit late starts in family formation.

The West screwed up big time at Suez in 1956 and in Iran in 1979. Don't let it happen again.

Jeffrey

Thomas, good list, don't forget the first order of business:
Pray.

Bill Meyer

A great list, Thomas. But let's consider another font, as well.

In the CCC, paragraph 2241 lays down very clearly the Church position on immigration. Let's follow it, as a nation. That means that all illegals are to be handled as the criminals they are, not amnestied.

It also should mean that in our immigration treaties, we should require balance. Mexico demands of us a welcome to their exported citizens that is simply unavailable to any American who may decide to immigrate to Mexico. So either we should match their terms, or they our, or simply compromise on some middle position. Any of those options is hugely to be preferred to the present inequity.

Bill Meyer

A great list, Thomas. But let's consider another font, as well.

In the CCC, paragraph 2241 lays down very clearly the Church position on immigration. Let's follow it, as a nation. That means that all illegals are to be handled as the criminals they are, not amnestied.

It also should mean that in our immigration treaties, we should require balance. Mexico demands of us a welcome to their exported citizens that is simply unavailable to any American who may decide to immigrate to Mexico. So either we should match their terms, or they our, or simply compromise on some middle position. Any of those options is hugely to be preferred to the present inequity.

Bill Meyer

Sorry for the duplicated comment... it resulted from an error reported to me by TypePad. Can someone kindly remove the duplicate?

Thomas Hart

Jeffrey, I rather assumed prayer was understood.

Bill, I agree about immigration, but I was thinking more about Europe than the US.

Jeffrey

To you and me, yes, it is obvious. But just pointing it out to everyone that our first order of business is to pray-then all else will come easier. I know how easy it can be for me to focus on things and forget to ask God for His help.
Apparently there is a book out that shows how (I think it is St Francis) preached to the Muslims and converted many.

Bill Meyer

Thomas, We're simply not as far down the road as is Europe. But our road leads the same place, unless we take a different fork.

Ed

Pray that your brethern "protestants" increase to make up for your failure

TM Lutas

Less than 20 people on any particular day could reverse these statistics by simply signing an act of union between Orthodoxy and Catholicism. The only problem is "would it stick?" because looking at it as an Eastern Catholic, my rational assessment is that Western Catholic arrogance would doom it, setting off the newly arrived Eastern Catholics quite quickly and heading them for the door in a new schism rather quickly and the US would be in the forefront.

Most Western Catholics don't even have an appreciation of the issues and most Eastern Catholics who care enough about equality to agitate for it generally end up Orthodox as they get chased out.

If anyone cares, there are rules about crossing rites. Western Catholics routinely ignore them to their advantage resulting in a largely one way flow of rite crossers. Western Catholics only grudgingly accept that Eastern practices of chrismation are valid and Eastern Catholics have to dodge the issue so as to shelter our children.

More locally, the US, in particular, has not come to grips in any meaningful way with its history of promoting schism. The US Church at large has not, to my observation, figured out that in a unified Church it would not be a Western nation but rather a nation that was evangelized both by the West and the East.

Right now Catholicism is bleeding because people who legitimately need an Eastern spiritual option don't by and large know how to get it within the Church and so they leave. And it's so unnecessary!

Aaron L

The Philippines at the very least I think defends Catholicism! We don't have divorce laws! We staunchly oppose any abortion laws! We love the Pope! We pray for intercession from the Saints! Oh Dear God keep the Philippines Catholic forever!

Optimusmastro

As long as the West continues its march towards self destruction,.aka socialism, along with the fact that we as Westerners are contracepting ourselves out of existence, only prayer can help! Pray the Rosary, visit Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, teach teenagers the Theology of the Body...We have the tools, we need to step it up!

Peace!

new balance

The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today .

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