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Wednesday, May 07, 2008

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Michelle

Yes we better listen to the Cardinal because giant puppets will start to invade your parish. Check out this
link http://fratres.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/mr-potato-head-concelebrates-the-holy-mass-fratres-blog-news-050508/

Alex Benziger.G

Sir
I am an advocate of Madras High Court(South India), I and some others submitted a petition to His Grace the archbishop of Madras-Mylapore for the TLM mass in a church on every Sunday. Thereafter I and Archbishop exchanges many letters, but the permission is not granted till date. The viewers of this blog may help us to have the TLM in our diocese as per our petition.Thanking you.
Yours in Our Lord Jesus Christ
Alex Benziger.G ,
dated 7th May 2008.
HERE BELOW OUR PETITION FOR TLM.
............................................
From July 16, 2007

1. G. Alex Benziger, Advocate,
St. Francis Xavier's Church, Broadway Parish.
2. Michael Amalraj Edward, Advocate,
Our Lady of Good Health Church, Little Mount Parish.
3. S. Parisutham, Advocate,
St. Mark's Church, Adambakkam Parish.
4. Dr. S. Leonard Vasanth, Advocate,
St. Fatima Church, Kodambakkam Parish
5. A. Arokiadoss, Advocate,
Holy Cross Church, T. Nagar Parish
6. D.Irudhaya Nathan, Advocate,
St. Francis Xavier's Church, Broadway Parish.
7. Conscious Fernando, Advocate,
St. Luke's Church, Anna Nagar Parish,
8. A. Amalraj, Advocate,
St. Andrew's Church, Choolai Parish.
9. Antony Jesu Rajan, Advocate,
St. Anne's Church, Nesappakkam Parish.
(All of us are Roman Catholic Advocates, Practising in the Madras High
Court, Madras, South India)

To

HIS GRACE Dr.A.M. CHINNAPPA. D.D.,
Archbishop of Madras-Mylapore,
Archbishop's House,
Santhome, Madras-600 004.

May it please your Grace,

Sub: Our request for the grant of Indult for celebrating Tridentine
Latin Mass on Sundays in St. Mary's Church, Co-Cathedral, Parrys,
Madras-600 001- Regarding.
*****
Greeting in our Lord Jesus Christ

May we place before Your Grace a kind request of permission of Indult
for providing us the Tridentine Latin Mass in the Parish Church
St.Mary's Co-Catherdral Shrine at Parrys, Madras-600 001 on every
Sunday at 5.30 P.M.

1. The Liturgy of Mass is the greatest 'Action' where Our Lord Jesus
Christ is brought down on earth in His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity,
by the anointed hands of the specially consecrated persons of
priesthood. It is certainly an extension of incarnation of Our Lord
Jesus Christ, Our Savior and His Crucifixion, manifested for the
redemption of our Soul of all the sacraments of the Church. The
Sacrament of Eucharistic Liturgy is the heart-beat and the richest
wealth of the Holy Mother Church.

2. Tridentine Latin Mass has been too evident a testimony to the
sacrificial basis of the Roman Catholic Church, based on the great
"Action of Christ" for centuries where the consecrated priest becomes
"Alter Christus". This Mass has, no doubt produced all the Holy
Saints and Martyrs in the Church.

3. With the vernacular presentation of the Mass and with no one
rubric, each priest has his own style of celebrating the Mass. No two
priest celebrate the Mass in the same manner, so much so, the general
comment of the faithful is always that 'Fr. 'X's' Mass is much better
than Fr.Y's' Mass or is not as good as the other.

4. Pope John Paul II in his Encyclical, 'Dominicae Cenae' dated
24.02.1980 states as,
"I would like to ask forgiveness in my own name and in the name of
all of your venerable and dear brothers in the episcopate-for
everything which, for whatever reason, through whatever human
weakness, impatience or negligence, and also through at the time
partial, one-side and erroneous application of the directives of
Second Vatican Council, may have caused scandal and disturbance
concerning the interpretation of the doctrine and the veneration due
to this great sacrament. And I pray to Lord Jesus that in the future
we may avoid in our manner of dealing with this sacred mystery
anything which could weaken or disorient in any way the sense of
reverence and love that exists in our faithful people".

5. As rightly pointed out by the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger-the
present Pope Benedict XVI-on 24.10.1998 to the 3000 traditionalist
faithful in the Eternal City who are coming from as far away as
Australia and New Zealand has said,
"the differences in the liturgy according to the new rite, as it is
actually practiced in many places, are often greater than the
difference between the new and the old liturgy, when both are
celebrated according to the prescribed liturgical books" (the
journal-"Inside the Vatican", December 1998 issue).

6. Pope John Paul II in his Encyclical, "Dominicae Cenae" dated
24.02.1980 further states
"Nevertheless, there are also those people who, having been educated
on the basis of the old liturgy in Latin, experience the lack of this
"one language", which in all the world was an expression of the Unity
of the Church and through its dignified character elicited a profound
sense of the Eucharistic Mystery. It is therefore necessary to show
not only understanding but also full respect towards these sentiments
and desires are to be accommodated, as is moreover provided for in the
new dispositions. The Roman Church has special obligations towards
Latin, the splendid language of ancient Rome, and she must manifest
them whenever the occasion presents itself".

7. Further Pope John Paul II in his Encyclical "Ecclesia Dei" dated
02.07.1988 states as….
"To all the Catholic Faithful who feel attached to some previous
liturgical and disciplinary forms of the Latin tradition I wish to
manifest my will to facilitate their ecclesial communion by means of
the necessary measures to guarantee respect for their rightful
aspirations. In this matter I ask for the support of the bishops and
of all those engaged in the pastoral ministry in the Church"………
"moreover, respect must everywhere be shown for the feelings of all
those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition, by a wide
and generous application of the directives already issued some time
ago by the Apostolic See for the use of the Roman Missal according to
the typical edition of 1962".

8. Further we wish to state that the Holy Father Benedict XVI in his
"Post Synodal, Apostolic Exhortation" "Sacramentum Caritatis" dated
22.02.2007 states as follows:
"…………… I am thinking here particularly of celebrations at
international gatherings, which nowadays are held with greater
frequency. The most should be made of these occasions. In order to
express more clearly the unity and universality of the Church, I wish
to endorse the proposal made by the Synod of Bishops, in harmony with
the directives of the Second Vatican Council, that, with the exception
of the readings the homily and the prayer of the faithful, such
liturgies could be celebrated in Latin. Similarly, the better known
prayers of the Church's tradition should be recited in Latin and, if
possible, selections of Gregorian chant should be sung. Speaking more
generally, I ask that future priests, from their time in the seminary,
receive the preparation needed to understand and to celebrate Mass in
Latin, and also to use Latin texts and execute Gregorian Chant; nor
should we forget that the faithful can be taught to recite the more
common prayers in Latin, and also to sing parts of the Liturgy to
Gregorian chant".

9. There is a great depth of reasoning in having the dead language in
the liturgy, so that the words are not misconstrued, misinterpreted
or mistranslated with all exaggerations to suit the individuals and
consequently, they are not being misconceived by the congregation.
This should be the main reason why the other religions too, Hinduism,
Islamism, Buddhism etc., have their religious prayers of worship and
chantings in the dead language.

10. Motu Proprio "Summorum Pontificum" be considered as "established
and decreed" by His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI on 07.07.2007 and to be
observed from September 14, 2007 is as follows:-
"Art 1. The Roman Missal promulgated by Paul VI is the ordinary
expression of the " Lex orandi' (Law of Prayer) of the Catholic Church
of the Latin rite. Nonetheless, the Roman Missal promulgated by St.
Pius V and reissued by Bl. John XXIII is to be considered as an
extraordinary expression of the same 'Lex orandi,' and must be given
due honour for its venerable and ancient usage. These two expressions
of the Church's Lex orandi will in no any way lead to a division in
the Church's 'Lex credendi' (Law of belief). They are, in fact two
usages of the one Roman rite.
"It is, therefore, permissible to celebrate the Sacrifice of the Mass
following the typical edition of the Roman Missal promulgated by
Bl.John XXIII in 1962 and never abrogated, as an extraordinary form of
the Liturgy of the Church".
and some norms of law, issued in this regard and we are eagerly
awaiting your Grace's necessary directions.

Under these circumstances, we, the undersigned Catholics and on behalf
of quite a good section of Catholics, in the City of Madras humbly
make our submission to Your Grace and request your Grace to grant
necessary Indult for providing us the Sacred Tridentine Latin Mass in
St. Mary's Co-cathedral Shrine on every Sunday evening
5.30 p.m. which will go a long way for the salvation of our souls in
search of our Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.
Thank you and pray for your Grace's Blessings.

Yours most Obedient Children in
Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Copy to :-His Eminence Cardinal Dario Castrillon HoyosPresident
Commission Ecclesia Dei, Plaza del Sant' Uffizio 11,00120 Vatican
City, Italy, Europe. All Communication and Correspondence to G. Alex
Benziger, Advocate, 18, Pidariyar Koil Lane, Chennai -600 001.e.mail:-
alexbenziger@aol.com Name & Address of the Catholics 1. G. Alex
Benziger, 2. Michael Amalraj Edward, 3. S. Parisutham, 4. Dr. S.
Leonard Vasanth, 5. A. Arokiadoss, 6. D.Irudhaya Nathan, 7. Conscious
Fernando, 8. A. Amalraj, 9. Antony Jesu Rajan,

ATHELSTAN

Let us hope Pope Benedict would eventually permit the TLM prayers at the foot of the altar to be used as an alternate opening rite in the Novus Ordo Mass, especially when the 1970 rite is celebrated ad orientem. Is it possible that, eventually we will see a vernacular version of the TLM, but with three lections, a set of rubrics for concelebration of the TLM, and communion under both forms?
Maybe the time has come to build a bridge from traditionalists to modernists by encouraging a wider use of traditional western (latin rite) liturgies. Permittingt the English speaking Catholic Church, and other language groups as well, to use a Sarum, Gallican, Mozarabic, and Milanese usage for the ad orientem Novus Ordo masses in latin , vernacular and hybrid liturgies.
If traditional Catholics want an all or nothing TLM, let them have it as they are permitted to have now. Others, who revere many features of the TLM, but who also believe in the underlying rationale for the Novus Ordo should be able to have a hybrid version of TLM with Novus Ordo elements.
Can a Romano-Byzantine liturgy be that far off?

Albanus

I would love to see Rome approve an experimental liturgy of the Romano-Byzantine type. I can think of endless possibilities and permutations all grounded upon Christian liturgical tradition.

Bay Area Catholic Blog

That's nice. I certainly wish there was a wider-spread celebration of the TLM

Tomas

I just read that Cardinal Rode is going to offer a Pontifical High Mass in honor of the Feast day of the Immaculate Conception of B.V.M. Here is the link if you want more info plus a great picture of the cardinal:http://uvcarmel.org/2009/12/04/cardinalrodetoofferpontificalhighmas/

Dunstan

Who cares about either the TLM or the Novus Ordo. They're both booooorrring beyond description.

Now, the Byzantine liturgy and rites are wonderfully moving, scriptural, adhering to ancient tradition, and do not change from parish to parish like the Novus Ordo. I want to second the idea of a Romano-Byzantine rite for the Roman Church. It will bring back the sacred, the cosmic, and mysterious in ways the Tridentine Mass can never do.

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